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that's his schtick he is divider in chief, its him and his base against the rest of real America
Here’s a good one. Fox News is running segments on this showing images of Eagles’ players kneeling... in PRAYER. No Eagles knelt during the national anthem last year.

F these people.
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The interesting thing here is that the owners must think the anthem issue is a sufficient threat to their money and seek to placate those who have a problem with the anthem as a protest vehicle.
I disagree. This is a bargaining chip. The next CBA will basically make this (along with arrest-based punishments, etc.) bargainable. The players will have to give on something else (or keep the same piece of the pie) in order to eliminate these controls.

Then, when something happens in the future, the Commish can throw up his hands and say "rules are rules."

It's win/win for the owners

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EDITED TO ADD: And Trump is clearly playing to that crowd.
Dead on. Seems like a no-brainer for him and his "don't kneel" crowd.

Which is weird, because no eagles kneeled.
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Just saw Ertz blasting Faux News for this what epic douchebags
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Hopefully the blue collar Eagle fans who helped turn PA red when they pulled the lever for this gaping vagina remember this when they go to the polls in 2020.
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You're dreaming if you think this is all about the CBA and not about fan interest ... I guaranfuckingtee there are plenty of NFL fans, including Eagle fans, who have an issue with using the anthem as a protest vehicle.

And the owners know it ... they've done the market research on it.
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You're dreaming if you think this is all about the CBA and not about fan interest ... I guaranfuckingtee there are plenty of NFL fans, including Eagle fans, who have an issue with using the anthem as a protest vehicle.

And the owners know it ... they've done the market research on it.
What will the league blame a continued drop in ratings next year? Guess they will need to move on to a new strawman argument.

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I have a feeling a goodly number of them think Trump is right here.
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Just saw Ertz blasting Faux News for this what epic douchebags
People need to stop letting their anger influence their decisions. I watched the video and no mention of Eagles players kneeling during the National Anthem and there were pictures of players kneeling in prayer. Some may make the jump to assume that was during the national anthem but looking at the pictures it clearly is not. Fox News is biased, CNN is biased, MSNBC is biased as well as every new source in the country. If you think Fox is bad and others are not than you are the problem rather than the solution. The best I have to offer is to expose yourself to multiple media sources and evaluate what passes the common sense test.

The major disappointment is the Eagles had a chance to shift the divisive nature we see today. Somebody somewhere needs to do that rather than to blame the other side. Imagine the respect earned by saying "Although I disagree with President Trump on significant issues I will respect the position and use this an opportunity to both demonstrate my willingness to discuss issues rather than discontinue communication as well as a way to represent to a country that those that think differently can come together." Unfortunately this protesting has become a fad and its just creating a divisive country and a generation that only knows how to function as they are shown by irresponsible adults.
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Do you have any contact with people who don't agree with you opinions on this issue?
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that's his schtick he is divider in chief, its him and his base against the rest of real America
I'M WITH YOU. THIS GUY IS A FUCKING CHILD AND NEEDS TO GO. HE'S A PUSSY AND A CRYBABY.

DOUCHEBAG SHOULD WORRY ABOUT THE HOMELESS, POVERTY IN THIS COUNTRY NOT PLAYERS ON EAGLES, WHICH BY THE WAY DIDN'T KNEEL ONE TIME ALL YEAR. NONE OF THEM.

GET RID OF HIM, DON'T CARE HOW.
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The guy's a petty asshole but this is all politics ... he's preaching to his choir.
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The guy's a petty asshole but this is all politics ... he's preaching to his choir.
....to press the NFL. The guy just loves to fight.
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Like I posted above ... the owners have done the research on this ... shit, Kaepernick is trying to use it to prove collusion.

It's always follow the money.
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You're dreaming if you think this is all about the CBA and not about fan interest ... I guaranfuckingtee there are plenty of NFL fans, including Eagle fans, who have an issue with using the anthem as a protest vehicle.

And the owners know it ... they've done the market research on it.
but even when I go out to Pennsyltucky, it's all Eagles and Steelers - no one really changes their viewing habits over the anthem.

I've changed my own viewing habits, but only because the product is watered down.

Edited to note: However, you're dreaming if you don't think this will be a bargaining chip in the future.

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People need to stop letting their anger influence their decisions. I watched the video and no mention of Eagles players kneeling during the National Anthem and there were pictures of players kneeling in prayer. Some may make the jump to assume that was during the national anthem but looking at the pictures it clearly is not. Fox News is biased, CNN is biased, MSNBC is biased as well as every new source in the country. If you think Fox is bad and others are not than you are the problem rather than the solution. The best I have to offer is to expose yourself to multiple media sources and evaluate what passes the common sense test.

The major disappointment is the Eagles had a chance to shift the divisive nature we see today. Somebody somewhere needs to do that rather than to blame the other side. Imagine the respect earned by saying "Although I disagree with President Trump on significant issues I will respect the position and use this an opportunity to both demonstrate my willingness to discuss issues rather than discontinue communication as well as a way to represent to a country that those that think differently can come together." Unfortunately this protesting has become a fad and its just creating a divisive country and a generation that only knows how to function as they are shown by irresponsible adults.
What a surprising sentiment coming from one of our resident Trumpsters. How much more evidence do you need that your orange messiah is a sociopathic POS? Thank God the good guys had the stones to stand up to him. I hope that all championship teams follow suit until his reign of terror is over.

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I'm not excluding the CBA ... and I'm not saying the anthem is the only problem with declining interest ... but it's clear to me they think it's one of them.
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I'm not excluding the CBA ... and I'm not saying the anthem is the only problem with declining interest ... but it's clear to me they think it's one of them.
It may account for a small sliver in the drop but the policy change is backfiring in their faces. Trump is already equating staying in the locker room with kneeling. He won't stop blasting the NFL until the league requires every player to stand, with hand over heart, during the national anthem.
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What a surprising sentiment coming from one of our resident Trumpsters. How much more evidence do you need that your orange messiah is a sociopathic POS? Thank God the good guys had the stones to stand up to him. I hope that all championship teams follow suit until his reign of terror is over.
Typical. Someone presents a point counter to your argument which is neutral based and you assume it is supportive of the President. Somehow you are able to determine my political support for a person knowing so little about me personally. Instead of looking at the substance of the post, attack the person who posted. Open your mind and find there is a whole other world out there.
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Unread 06-05-2018, 10:38 AM  
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So Fox News covers kneeling during the anthem and shows players kneeling but doesn't explicitly say it's during or not during the anthem.

I guess this isn't *TECHNICALLY* mis-information.
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